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PostSubject: division change maybe?   11/12/2008, 3:41 pm

hi all, after reading xenos page about his possible division change, im now thinking if i am in the right division... u c, i thought that the divisions were set out mainly for RoM, not all games... tbh i am a mage type character, mostly have, but there r some games that, if the right things r on, i would be a warrior type character or an archer type character. Flyff, however i am an all round type of player (one of each first job characters). currently on RoM i am a lvl 4 mage but i do have a lvl 2 knight as well. I will test both of these classes out and whichever one wins me over, will most likely be my main and the other one will be the 2nd class (may be priest) so inform me if i am in the right division or if i need to change.

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PostSubject: Re: division change maybe?   11/12/2008, 8:55 pm

Can I make a suggestion? I know the way the divsions is set up is more like the manga counter-part, what if we down it? Say instead the 13, we just have 6-7? Each representing the main classes in most MMOs? This would make things a little simple and not have so many people divided in to many divisions. Say we have 25 active members, and there are 13 divisions. That would be 1-2 in each division average. So if one division is stack with a few more that will leave divisions just empty and useless anyways.

Just a thought. Think abou it Ichigo

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PostSubject: Re: division change maybe?   11/13/2008, 10:46 am

I agree with u Xeno that the divisions are very empty but in my opinion, if the number of divisions downs, the whole idea on wich the guild is based will be broken. Remember than when open beta starts more people could be recruited easily.
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PostSubject: Re: division change maybe?   11/13/2008, 10:48 am

I think we just have to wait for OB to begin.. like dark says more people will join once everyone can play..

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PostSubject: Re: division change maybe?   11/13/2008, 1:17 pm

xeno has made a good point but the it does also change the idea of the guild set up so dark and captain tbh is right, we should wait for OB to come, god i can't wait =D, also we arent on many games so thats also a set down. when we get more members, we will probably join more games and eventually, all the divisions SHOULD have a fair amount of members (although, the ones that will get filled easily would be mages, healers, warriors and archers divisions as there the main class types on all MMOs. btw captain like ur avatar, looks cool. that blade looks like summat from kingdom hearts

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PostSubject: Re: division change maybe?   11/13/2008, 1:40 pm

yup cant wait either

my avatar is a Keyblade warrior from Kingdom hearts: Birth by sleep
so the blade is actually a key blade

i chose it since im a KH fan
btw: in my signature the most right picture is also from KH, Riku fighting hearthless.

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PostSubject: Re: division change maybe?   11/13/2008, 5:54 pm

i know, hehehe its awesome... but no game beats the FINAL FANTASY SERIES!!!!! i cant wait for FFXIII to come out or FF versus XIII
(both have different story lines, one with a person who looks awesome and a king or prince or summat who has a lot of weapons surrounding him as a shield who is UBER awesome, watych him fight a lot of ppl with ease, he deflects bullets and wipes ppl out =D. oh on FFXIII shiva is a bike apparently)

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PostSubject: Re: division change maybe?   11/13/2008, 6:11 pm

I dont like that the division apply for every game. Like I may not like to be a warrior in one game where in another I prefer mages.

To get the most out of the divisions we would literally need a max number of active members. Do you have any idea how hard it's going to be to fill the guild with active members. The divisions are going to be swamped with inactive people, and people trying to transfer because they are no satified with the mains they picked. Restricting these people and the hastle of division changes will burden not only the leaders of the divisions, the players, but also Black who has to sort everything out in the long run.

We'll see how it works in OB, but I am alomost positive that it's not going to work out well. I've had alot of experience with game guilds, and the way I see it now will present alot of problems, even for the most organized guilds.

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PostSubject: Re: division change maybe?   11/14/2008, 4:19 pm

ive been in many guilds on MMOs. tbh, some of them were the best and most of em had loads of inactive players. on flyff im in one of the top guilds and tehre like a couple of ppl on everyday, theres a lot of members offline though. Also i was in aguild which had like 10 members and it was in the top 10 best guilds. so yeah, we will have 2 c wots in store for us on OB

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PostSubject: Re: division change maybe?   11/16/2008, 5:07 am

Xeno, you say you don't like that the divisions apply for every game..
but if they wouldn't what would be the meaning of the divisions?
just some fun thing for RoM?

I also think that you are right, before the divisions can really work out there should be at least 5+ people per division which means in whole of SSG there would be 65 members which on itself is possible ofcourse but we must do a lot of recruiting before it will work.

So let's just wait until OB and see what happens, i also hope that when the guild in 4story is made that we will find more core members there as well.

Also i don't think we can skip the division in a Soul Society guild if it wouldn't work out.. that would just crush the whole concept.
Maybe in a later time , ONLY if it wouldn't work out, we should think about some way to still have the 13 guardian squads but that we use the concept in another way.

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PostSubject: Re: division change maybe?   11/16/2008, 11:34 am

I think I will change divisions. I am almost 100% sure of this. I need a cost effective main to start out a game, and it just so happens alot of MMOs I have played mages just seem to be just that. I'll make my 2h big sword wielding badass once I get the funds to badass him out, but for now I do wish to be changed to the caster division. I hope this does not cause any problems:( If this IS an issue I have no problem staying where I am at as well.

Mage + enhanced fire spells = OP? Headbang

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PostSubject: Re: division change maybe?   11/30/2008, 8:30 pm

hello, i need a division change too ><
i was goin to pick a knight scout because of the moderate damage but the latest patch hella nerfed the secondary skills of the scout making it very low dmg class

my new main will be a rogue knight, i dont know what division to be in? what recomendations would u suggest for this build?
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PostSubject: will   12/1/2008, 11:00 am

will eave one is need in the game Smile how i look at it. we will got your thing to Help ppl in Smile how i look we help ppl all the time as the SSG Smile but thats juts me you kown lol







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PostSubject: Re: division change maybe?   12/1/2008, 12:14 pm

Well it depends on what you like RooRoo.. my PvP division obviously welcomes rogues but the second division is the main rogue division.. so it is up to you =P

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PostSubject: Re: division change maybe?   12/1/2008, 3:04 pm

or u could have a main class that U prefer and another main that goes with the division u r in, like my my main character that il play as that i like and prefer is a mage/priest or summat of the magic kind (maybe mage/scout for super charged arrow firing or mage/rogue for stealthy and magically enchanted kills) and my main class for PvP and division friendly is my knight/warrior or knight/priest for paladin style

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PostSubject: Re: division change maybe?   12/2/2008, 10:35 am

well as you know the second division is the rogues division so if u choose to be in my division ill be glad to have u in. Headbang
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PostSubject: Re: division change maybe?   12/2/2008, 1:20 pm

hehe, wait is it the rogues who have 2 weapons or warriors? i forget

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PostSubject: Re: division change maybe?   12/2/2008, 1:23 pm

i think both can, not very sure right now, but im sure rogues can double wield
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PostSubject: Re: division change maybe?   12/2/2008, 3:57 pm

Rogues can dual wield but a warrior cause wield 2-h weapons.
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PostSubject: Re: division change maybe?   12/2/2008, 7:52 pm

Rogues have the passive skill "off-hand weapons." This means they are able to hold a weapon in the off-hand. Warriors DO NOT have this skill and need a rogue at least level 16 to get this ability. Keep in mind to that you cannot duel wield axes. As far as I know axes are only usable in the main hand (just an FYI)

If your playing a rogue as a main, you'll probably want a dagger in the mainhand instead of going 2 swords. Alot of rogue skills have bleed effects that can only be triggered from a dagger. The most common combo is: Dagger in the main-hand, and Sword in the off-hand.

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PostSubject: Re: division change maybe?   12/3/2008, 3:25 pm

so with rogue as sub class with warrior and at lvl 16, they would b able to dual wield 2 swords then? hehe rogues r starting to sound quite good

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PostSubject: Re: division change maybe?   12/3/2008, 3:33 pm

So in RoM u ll have 2 clas that u need to get to lvl 50?
Thats shity its like 100 lvls affraid affraid affraid affraid
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PostSubject: Re: division change maybe?   12/4/2008, 7:12 am

hehe, tbh im not bothered by this type of class thing as its same on final fantasy 11 (have a lvl 52 summoner and sub class is a lvl 68 white mage but with summoning its only lvl 26)

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PostSubject: Re: division change maybe?   12/4/2008, 2:24 pm

Im disturbed with tha sistem greatly Evil or Very Mad
Couse its stupid to have 2 classes to lvl till lvl 50 why would i do that thats 100lvl of grinding affraid
I think they sould put that u can choose if u want dual class or single class it would be better that way.
And they didnt give good explanation of dual class sistem and bonuses and other stuff that involve dual class.
They should put like i Baldurs Gate,IceWind Dale or similiar game u have to choose single class or multy class.
And i u choose multy there are dual and 3 class and if u want to farm take them but there are specific bonuses that u can have and taht u cant have and u arent taht stronger of single class and single class can kill u like u can kill him.
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PostSubject: Re: division change maybe?   12/4/2008, 4:06 pm

You aren't forced to lvl both your classes... but it just gives you much more advantage than without one.
I don't see why you think it should be different, since you just lvl 1 class until the lvl ya like and then when you want some more skills you lvl the other class.
It does take more time, but being max lvl too fast just takes all fun out of the game.

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